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Posted: Aug. 15, 2003 11:22 am/pm Quote

:coonskin: For those of you who are interested in the live action movies Disney and it's member companies make, or who are interested in Texas history, American history, war movies or patriotic movies:

"The Alamo" now has an official WWW site and has long had a fan WWW site up.  The trailer is now playing with "Open Range" (starring Kevin Costner) as of mid-August and you can also see the trailer online.  

Official site for the movie (and where you can see the trailer):

http://alamo.movies.go.com/main.html  Select "See the preview", something like that.  Preview is OK for "general audiences" and the film is not yet rated.  But if you know the story behind the battle of the Alamo be aware the film is supposed to be a realistic portrayal of the battle, and Gen. Santa Ana was not a kind man.  You have your choice of media players on the site and at what bandwidth you wish to view the preview.  If it doesn't work, it takes a long time for the preview to load properly so be patient, or you may have to update your particular player software with a download.

The fan site, with lots of references to the Alamo (books, etc.), news and a discussion area for fans, for the extras who worked on the movie (filming was at a specially built new replica of the Alamo complex outside of Austin, Texas, filming concluded in mid-June) and you learn all kinds of inside tidbits about the making of the movie there:

http://thealamofilm.com/news.htm

The fan site, above, also has a link to the official movie site where you can see the trailer in its entirety and not the shortened electronic version you first see upon entering the fan site.  "Buzz" (advance talk) about "The Alamo" trailer on the fan site is generally positive to very glowing with a picky quibble here and there.

If you can tolerate crude humor (it's not for kiddies, OK?) and if you have some understanding of Texas and if you have a feeling and appreciation for what it's really like to make a movie, one of the extras on the film drew a series of comic strips that are howlingly funny.  Very crude (cuss words and frank attitudes are expressed in a satiric way) so be forewarned, and it's expressing more "in jokes" about what it was like to be an extra playing a member of the Mexican army in April, May and June in the Texas heat.  OK:  Go to http://thealamofilm.com/news.htm and along the top menu bar select "Message Board", then select "Extras Holding Area" and as the first selection under topics "Alamo Comic Strip--Updated".  You will need Adobe Acrobat to view it.

Several on the Alamo fan site know their Texas and Alamo history to a T, a T that stands for "Texas".  Don't let that put you off.  As a matter of fact, it's said that this movie will take new looks at the legends of the battle as historians are now interpreting it today.  You may see points of view (in the film's script) of the townspeople and the Mexican army expressed.  Some historians doubt the famous "line in the sand" really took place, and that may be expressed in the movie.  And some historians now speculate there may be doubt as to how Davy Crockett actually died, instead of in the heat of battle perhaps captured by Santa Ana and excecuted.

Movie is not yet rated, but due to the level of violence in it the extras who worked on it speculate the movie might be rated PG-13, but that is just rumor at this time.  Movie is set to open Christmas Day, Dec. 25, 2003.  It will be a Touchstone movie, not from Disney Pictures as originally thought.

P.S.:  I posted this and then checked both links I referred you to and can verify both links work.

P.P.S.:  Upon closer reading of posts on the fan site for "The Alamo" movie, the teaser/trailer is _not_ universally playing in front of "Open Range" which opened in theatres last week.  "The Alamo" trailer/teaser is viewable on the Internet, however.  And if you view the trailer and see/hear the character viewing outside the Alamo walls who remarks "We're going to need more men," that's Billy Bob Thornton, who plays David Crockett, so now you know how differently "The Alamo" will apparently portray its overall subject matter....no resemblance to "Davy Crockett" as Fess Parker portrayed that character for Walt Disney!  :coonskin:   --Last PPS was written and added to this post 8/16/03 by Carol Koster


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Posted: Sep. 18, 2003 12:31 am/pm Quote

Film premiere is a reel deal for the Alamo

Disney's Touchstone Pictures will premiere Alamo on December 13, 2003 at San Antonio's Majestic Theatre.

Quick quote:
Come December, with all the nearby shops sporting Christmas decorations and endless strings of light, the mood at the Alamo will be far less reserved. On Dec. 13, a Saturday night, Disney's Touchstone Pictures will offer the world premiere of its feature film, The Alamo, starring Dennis Quaid as Sam Houston, Billy Bob Thornton as Davy Crockett, Jason Patric as Jim Bowie and Patrick Wilson as William Barret Travis.

"It will be a very interesting night in San Antonio," said David Stewart, director of the Alamo.

Full details.
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Posted: Sep. 25, 2003 8:49 am/pm Quote

According, this week, to the Alamo movie fan site, a brand new trailer will show starting this weekend promoting "The Alamo".  Might be with "Under the Tuscan Sun" but there is another movie opening this weekend from Touchstone, I forgot the title but it appeals more to men, where the fans on that site think the 2nd trailer is more likely to show.   "Entertainment Tonight" this week did a segment about the film, too.

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Posted: Sep. 26, 2003 10:05 am/pm Quote

The film opening this weekend where you can supposedly see the newest "The Alamo" trailer is "Cold Creek Manor", from Touchstone.

But you can see it online too:

http://movies.yahoo.com/shopd=hv&id=1808402862&cf=trailer

Select the first option for the theatrical trailer, you've selected the newest one (the one just out this weekend and the one I'm pointing you towards) if the time on it says 2:32 (two minutes and 32 seconds).  The older trailer is 2:12 (2 minutes 12 seconds).  Select also the photo montage, the third option on the page.  The music is new, might actually be from the movie, and this trailer makes "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" look like a summer frolic romp by comparison (and I LOVED PotC:TCotBP.)  It's OK for kids to see these trailers but the movie itself looks like it will be very intense and emotional.  This has Oscar and other awards written all over it.  At least IMHO, YMMV.  Absolutely stunning and awesome!!!!  Bound to be one of the "must see" movies of that time of year.  

Can also go here to the movie's fan site which has a link to the same clips:

http://www.thealamofilm.com/

Entertainment Tonight's WWW site has a video clip of Leonard Maltin on "The Alamo" set interviewing Billy Bob Thorton and the actor portraying Col. William Travis.

UPDATE:  After I wrote and posted this I went deeper into "The Alamo" movie fan site discussion areas and they are now saying the "new" music in this newest version of the trailer is NOT from "The Alamo", it's three different scores from other movies.  But the glowing praise for the newest trailer keeps flowing on the fan site's discussion board.


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Posted: Oct. 28, 2003 9:21 am/pm Quote

Whoa, this is HUGE NEWS!!!!!

The premEAR of Disney's "The Alamo" movie is not going to be on Christmas Day, but has been moved to next year -- 2004!!!!
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Carol says, "What a shocker! Impact: This will not be an Oscar contender film (release before 12/31 to be so considered by the Academy). And this may postpone the premiere in San Antonio from early December to closer to the anniversary of when the real battle occured (March??)"




Official press release:

Touchstone Pictures' Epic Film 'The Alamo' Set for New April 2004 Release Date

BURBANK, Oct 28, 2003 -- Touchstone Pictures' highly anticipated and ambitious production of "The Alamo," has been given a new release date of April, 2004, it was announced today (10/28/03) by Dick Cook, chairman of The Walt Disney Studios, and the film's director John Lee Hancock. "The Alamo" stars Dennis Quaid, Billy Bob Thornton, Jason Patric, Jordi Molla, Emilio Echevarria, and Patrick Wilson.

Commenting on the announcement, Cook said, "The decision to move 'The Alamo' to April 2004 was made at the request of the filmmakers, who felt they needed additional time to complete this great movie. Too often in Hollywood these days, release dates are set before a film has even completed shooting and it forces the director into a situation that compromises the work. Our experience working with John Lee Hancock has been so terrific and our belief in his opinions, talents and abilities so strong, that we felt his concerns about the looming release date warranted strong consideration. Ultimately, the end product is more important than the need to meet arbitrary deadlines for awards, etc. Audiences will have to wait just a bit longer to see 'The Alamo,' but we feel that the wait will be worth it and result in a motion picture that is superior and satisfying in every way."

Hancock commented, "Dick and Nina Jacobson have been 100% supportive of this film throughout the entire production process and I am thrilled that they have agreed to give me the necessary time to complete it to my satisfaction. The Alamo has, from a very early age, been the most important story of my life, so when I agreed to rewrite and direct the film, I set the bar very high, both for myself and the finished product. Post production on an epic ensemble piece takes time and no deadline, no prestige release date, no awards season is worth more to me than the movie being fantastic. I owe that to myself as well as the film."

Where myth meets history ... where legend meets reality ... the roads cross at San Antonio de Bexar and the small, ruined mission there: The Alamo. This new, action-packed retelling of the American legend shows there are at least two sides to every story -- and more -- when America's extraordinary figures are involved. Against all odds in the spring of 1836, less than 200 men -- men of all races who believed in the future of Texas -- held the fort against thousands of Mexican soldiers led by General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna (Emilio Echevarria), ruler of Mexico and commander of its forces. Led by three men -- the young, brash Lt. Col. William Travis (Patrick Wilson); the violent, passionate James Bowie (Jason Patric); and the living legend David Crockett (Billy Bob Thornton) -- the Texians and their deeds at the Alamo would pass into history as General Sam Houston's (Dennis Quaid) rallying cry for Texas independence and into legend for their symbolic significance. "The Alamo" was produced by Mark Johnson, Ron Howard and Brian Grazer, and executive produced by Todd Hallowell and Philip Steuer. Leslie Bohem and Stephen Gaghan and John Lee Hancock wrote the screenplay.

Source:Touchstone Pictures


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Posted: Oct. 28, 2003 9:26 am/pm Quote

The buzz on the Alamo movie fan site is that early audience test screenings show the movie as existing and edited now lacks emotional impact for the audience.  

They want the extra time to do it right, because they know they have to answer to Texans if they screw this movie up.
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Also, in the general movie discussion forum there you can see another thread about how another site reports a test screening was  disappointing.


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Posted: Oct. 28, 2003 9:28 am/pm Quote

Big show biz news about this movie this evening, folks:  The premiere of "The Alamo" is being postponed from Christmas Day 2003 to April 2004!!!!!!!!!  They need more time to edit the movie.  Reading on The Alamo movie fan site (see earlier message in this thread for the URL) apparently very recent test screenings are showing the movie isn't involving the audience emotionally enough and there must be some negative audience reviews based on the test screenings.  So the movie-makers need more time to fix the problems.  Two impacts of this:  No premiere in early December in San Antonio (likely big news and a big disappointment there), and no potential Oscar nominations for this movie.  A movie, to be nominated for an Oscar, must have been released in New York or Los Angeles by December 31 of the prior year.  News apparently verified not only by Ain't It Cool News (a movie WWW site about news and rumors in Hollywood) as reported on The Alamo movie fan WWW site, but I also just saw a PRNewswire press release from Disney itself confirming the later premiere date.  Rich has been alerted to post the release here for you to see and a pointer to the discussion thread about the delay on The Alamo movie's fan WWW site.

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Posted: Oct. 29, 2003 7:04 am/pm Quote

More buzz from The Alamo film fan site:  One poster came up with the speculation that not only is the movie behind in its editting and musical score composition, but the change in premiere date to April 2004 would put the new premiere closer to anniversary dates in Texas history honored in the film.  The Alamo fell March 6.  I think the Battle of San Jacinto (which ends the movie) was in April.  April is a less "hot" month for big movies to come out.  April would get The Alamo away from December 2003 big movies like Tom Cruise's Seven Samarai and Lord of the Rings.  Test screenings had mixed reviews:  Test screenings were done in California and not Texas, and reaction to an historical movie was not what the filmmakers or Disney (Eisner is said to have attended the test screening) were hoping for.  Postponing the movie to the spring would allow more members of the Academy to see it in theatres and not via the controversial screening DVDs (piracy concerns), even though that puts off potential Oscar caliber performances for consideration for more than a full year.  They also point out it's unsual for a film of this budget and complexity to be released so soon (6 months or less) after principal shooting ended.  Partipants on the discussion forum are hoping the filmmakers don't go back and create a mushy love triangle between Alamo defenders and some lady character to heighten the "emotions" of the film, they primarily want the history to be depicted and Alamo defenders honored.  Some see the delay and call for re-edit as a pandering to the age 15-25 crowd who wants to see a movie 12 times in a row in theatres and who view movies as mind-candy than artistic attempts to explore serious subject matter.  There is a lot of shock, anger, disappointment.  They hope the delay will make for a better-made movie.  Some are disappointed that on Christmas Day they'll actually have to spend time with their families instead of at the movies as they'd planned.  ;)   I'm disappointed, too, 'cause my late father was from San Antonio and I grew up visiting the Alamo there, also grew up with the image of Fess Parker starring as that character on Wonderful World of Disney.  I hope moving the premiere later creates a stunning epic of battle and patriotism for all to enjoy and for Texas, San Antonio and the nation to be proud of.   Made sense to me to premiere the movie close to actual historic anniversaries for Texas liberty, anyway, but then again who at Disney would listen to me or anyone else with common sense? ;-) :flag:  :coonskin:

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Posted: Oct. 29, 2003 2:49 am/pm Quote

Disney Delays 'Alamo' Release

Take a look at this Los Angeles Times article. It sums up very well what's going on with the changing of the movie's premEAR date.


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Posted: Oct. 29, 2003 3:12 am/pm Quote

Box Office Mojo has a discussion forum on their WWW site.  They are speculating The Alamo movie suffers from not being very good to begin with and from the crushing blow the Lord of the Rings sequel debutting in December will cause movies released after it.  They complain the holiday movie season is too crowded and want other studios to move their movies out of the month or the season, as Disney did with The Alamo.  About the movie not being good, the promos and teasers for it on Disney's official WWW site for the movie look good to me.  But The Lord of the Rings franchise is a very very strong one and that film is likely the goliath this season to stay clear of.  What a shame.  I still hope for good things for The Alamo film, maybe being released closer to the commemorative dates in March-April celebrated in the film will uptick its box office vs. being released at Christmas 2003.

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