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Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 03, 2003 3:46 am/pm

Yoo Hoo, Disney EchoEars!

Welcome to the Disney Dining & Priority Seating message forum on the Disney Echo!

Want to talk about dining at Disney theme parks or do you have a question about Priority Seating? You've come to the right place because this forum is modEARated by Beth Liv2CdWorld and Scott Scottwdw Thomas. Check out Scott's < PS* Planning Guide > website for complete details about Priority Seating in the Priority Seating FAQ and use his PS Calculator to plan for your Disney dining fun.

So, ask questions and share your tips and experiences about
  • Disney dining experiences, whether it was eating at a fancy Disney Resort restaurant or even an outside food and beverage cart
  • Making Priority Seating "reservations" for a Disney restaurant
  • and discussing Priority Seating

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 04, 2003 2:13 am/pm

The graphic look of this forum matches the new heading logo I designed for Scottwdw's website. He wanted a better look and his old logo didn't really say "Disney" because there was nothing Disney about it.

He already had silverware in his logo, and I wanted to continue using that idea to convey the food part of his website's topic. I started searching for some source pictures of a knife, fork and spoon using Google, without liking what I found. I remembered the Disney Catalog had been selling Disney-themed flatware, so I searched that site and found the utensils you see here -- except their utensils don't have the giant Mickey's on the bottom of them, the originals have little Mickey icon cut-outs in the base of the handle. But they were too small to show up in the various sizes the new logo would need to be. So, I found a picture of chrome liquor bottle stoppers that had these Mickey heads on them, turned them upside-down from how they had been, and then adjusted the contrast and coloring (the silverware in the new logo has a slight bluish cast to it). The last step for the silverware was to add a slight halo around it, giving it a magical dining experience look to it. That glow, plus a drop shadow, then sizing and positioning each piece was the last step for that element.

Early in the design planning, I considered having some sort of phone or Mickey hand holding a Mickey-style phone, but that idea was soon rejected when the rest of the logo started coming together because the phone part of it was adding too much clutter and I needed to make it simpler.

The "PS CALCULATOR" part of the logo started as my own Mickey-shaped calculator, which I don't think is sold anymore. In looking around online for it this weekend, the only place I found it was on ebay going for $3. This made me feel really bad, since to me it is worth far, far more than that. But, I guess in this day of PDAs, laptops, and home computers, there isn't much of a demand for stand-alone calculators anymore, much less large ones shaped like Mickey. Sad. So, the best course of action I had was to scan my own Mickey calculator, then touch it up to remove any imperfections that have occurred over the years we've owned it. The buttons on the actual calculator are black, the same as the rest of it, plus there are many more of them, it being a full-feature calculator. I liked that the calculator is black like Mickey's body, but having both the buttons and the calculator black wouldn't show up very well -- plus the buttons would get too small when I reduced the image down for the logo. So, I ramped over all of the buttons to eliminate them and then cut out different buttons from a picture of another Mickey calculator, a simpler one with fewer buttons, and overlaid it on the image of my calculator. The buttons on that simpler calculator were blue, so I changed them to red to give more of a Mickey look to them. I considered what to put in the display window of the calculator, thinking for a bit to put "90 DAYS" or "120 DAYS" or what-have-you, then thought Disney seems to be adjusting the PS call-in dates so I better steer clear of that. Even though it is actually hard to put in letters on a calculator  :wink2: I thought it would be neat to have "PS CALCULATOR" in its window, to give the impression that this cool-looking Mickey calculator is the actual PS Calculator Scottwdw designed.  :wink2:

After arranging the calculator and the utensils together in a way I liked, I placed them over a background that is made from a blurred parchment pattern to give the appearance of a tablecloth. Note that in the smaller versions of the logo (seen on the Priority Seating website) I opted for just a white background without any pattern in it, which worked better in those versions which are smaller than the image seen here on this page.

The next step was the text. After trying out various typefaces, I narrowed it down to two. The one I finally picked is named Tempus Sans ITC. "Tempus" means "time" -- so I felt that was perfect for the logo for the website and forum dealing with making Priority Seating and figuring out when's the best time to do that! I liked how with the text and how I colored it in sections to help break up how wordy it is by giving each similar word group a slightly-different color (but subtle, nothing that hits you over the head, though, like a box of Crayolas... the dark red "Disney Dining" to mimic the red buttons that are similar to Mickey's red shorts, the dark yellow "& Priority Seating" to have some sort of yellow to remind you of Mickey's shoes, and the "Message Forum" in a muted green which picks up the green of the calculator's display window), and how I laid out the text combined with the calculator and utensils, it gave the finished logo a clean, retro-classy look -- but still with that Disney whimsy of having Mickey elements in it.

When I was happy about the whole thing, I sent the logo in its three sizes and versions over to Scottwdw for his approval. I hate having to show things as I'm working on them, and would rather just do it my way completely at first, then make changes if that's what others think needs to be done. Well, Scottwdw thought the new logo was wonderful! He said it gives the site a better and more professional look about it. He loves the Mouse Ears Calculator idea, saying it is "just perfect. Simple, yet elegant!!"

Funny, that's exactly the look I was striving for. So I guess I succeeded.  :bigsmile:

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 04, 2003 2:28 am/pm

Sorry I went on so long about the design of the logo used here, but I am the Disney Echo's administratEAR so I guess I'm allowed to ramble on and on -- plus I wanted to tell you about how the design came about!

Posted by: Liv2CdWorld on Aug. 04, 2003 8:29 am/pm

I love it (the graphic, that is) :)

Well, we love it when you ramble too, Rich :laugh:

Posted by: Cyril Proudbottom on Aug. 04, 2003 12:45 am/pm

I have been fretting and fearing the moment when I had to call for a PS for Cinderella's Royal Table. My two DD's have had their hearts set on breakfast with Cindy!

Now my trip is 78 days away, but thanks so much to Rich and Scott, I am thrilled to say I snatched up a PS this morning for Oct 23.

From the first day I found this website, I have been amazed at everyone's kindness. It is unequaled only by your amazing knowledge of all things Disney.

A toast to Rich, Steve (Tikiman), Scott, and everyone else who has helped me out so much! I am very much in your debt!! :bowdown:

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 04, 2003 1:35 am/pm

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------
A toast to Rich, Steve (Tikiman), Scott, and everyone else who has helped me out so much! I am very much in your debt!! :bowdown:

No, no! (All together now...)

It is our pleasure!


Posted by: Scottwdw on Aug. 06, 2003 2:27 am/pm

I have to say, when I first saw what Rich had done, I had one of those moments when Lucy yells, "That's It!" at Schroder during the Peanut's Charlie Brown Christmas Special.

This is the logo I had in the back of mind for a LONG time but I couldn't trick, ah, I mean, get somebody to put it together.  Then, along comes Rich who says if I moderate a forum on the Disney Echo he'd make up a logo for me.

It wasn't a day later when not just the logo appeared in my InBox but the new masthead for my site.  Later, Rich created just the calculator icon I now use as my signature on some of the other message boards I frequent.

Join me as I  :bowdown: to the Graphics Wizard!

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 06, 2003 4:52 am/pm


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