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Topic: "Peter Pan" Live Action Movie, Universal Studios, Opens December 25, 2003; Discussion< Next Oldest | Next Newest >

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Posted: Nov. 23, 2003 8:56 am/pm Quote

The official movie WWW site is worth taking a look at.  This movie is rated PG for peril scenes.  It also does not look like something you would want to take the young children to, but parents should take a look at the site below and use their best judgement.  This seems to be "Peter Pan" for the more mature child who can handle drama and sophistication and for the adult who wants a more sophisticated form of fantasy entertainment out of British literature other than from "Harry Potter" or "Lord of the Rings".  The movie trailers make the movie look like a live action more dramatic version of the Disney animated film.

http://www.peterpanmovie.net/


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Posted: Nov. 24, 2003 12:43 am/pm Quote

This is a link to the London (England) Daily Telegraph, an article critical of Disney pulling out of this live action film project (is this what's going to be in wide release in the U.S. on Christmas Day 2003? ) and critical that profits will not be shared with the hospital given the original copyright and owndership of "Peter Pan" after J.M. Barrie's death.  Sounds unfavorable, in tone of writing, to Disney company.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news....me.html


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Posted: Nov. 24, 2003 12:58 am/pm Quote

I saw the trailer when I saw Radio last weekend...why didnt Disney make this movie???? :)

Cant wait to see it :)


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Posted: Nov. 24, 2003 1:08 am/pm Quote

I'm gonna have to start a completely different topic thread.

Miramax is making a movie called "J.M. Barrie's Neverland", starring Johnny Depp and Kate Winslett, and it's about how J.M. Barrie came to write the story of "Peter Pan".  

These movies get confusing!


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Posted: Nov. 24, 2003 1:26 am/pm Quote

I Googled this topic, and the London Daily Telegraph IS referring to a Disney movie when it talks about the same Peter Pan opening in US theatres Christmas Day 2003!  In England it's a Disney-made film, but for some reason in the U.S. it's a Universal Studios film.  Go figure.  The other thing is there's more than one side to all stories so I don't know, other than what is in the article below, the history of Disney with the project, etc.  If anyone wants to dig around using Google to find out more it would be appreciated.

Here's the article from the earlier URL for the Daily Telegraph I cited:

Disney quits Peter Pan film after row over Gt Ormond St
By Chris Hastings and Catherine Milner
(Filed: 23/11/2003)


The Walt Disney Corporation pulled out of a new £60 million film version of Peter Pan after refusing to give a share of its profits to Great Ormond Street Children's Hospital in London.

The Hollywood studio became embroiled in a row with its fellow producers when it rejected a deal that would have given the hospital a share of the royalties from lucrative merchandising deals linked to the film.

At the height of the dispute with two other studios the company announced that it was withdrawing its £20 million investment from the project.

The disclosure of Disney's departure comes just four weeks before the Boxing Day release of the now-completed film, which is expected to be one of the biggest hits of the year.

Directed by P.J. Hogan, the Australian film-maker responsible for box-office hits including Muriel's Wedding and My Best Friend's Wedding, it is the first faithful, non-animated film adaptation of J.M. Barrie's original 1904 play.

It stars Jason Isaacs - who appeared in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - as Captain Hook, Richard Briers as Smee, and Olivia Williams, who appeared in The Sixth Sense, as Mrs Darling.

The film, which is being released to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the play's first performance, has the full backing of the Great Ormond Street Hospital. Under the conditions laid down by Barrie in his will, the hospital is the legal owner of the play's copyright. It has full control over all productions of the play and is supposed to benefit financially from each subsequent adaptation.

Despite these conditions Disney believed it should be exempt from making any payment to the hospital from the sale of spin-off books, board games, soft toys and computer games, which are expected to generate tens of millions of pounds in their own right.

Disney executives argued that while it was right that its partners at Sony and Revolution Studios should hand over money from their share of the merchandising, it should be exempt because it had already made regular payments to the hospital to secure the animated rights to the story.

Nina Jacobson, the head of production at Disney, confirmed that there had been a dispute over the royalties connected with the merchandising. She insisted, however, that it was not the reason why the company had quit the production.

She said: "There was a disagreement among the producers over merchandising and payments to the hospital. It was never resolved because the deal collapsed for other reasons.

"As far as merchandising was concerned, we already had a deal with the hospital, which we thought was beneficial for both parties. It works for us and works for the hospital.

"We felt we should let sleeping dogs lie and not open an all-new agreement, which would have a domino effect on the existing agreement. We did not want to be in a situation where we were paying twice.

"I think the primary reason why we pulled out was because we wanted to cap our investment in the film. Our partners were not happy with that stance and that became a subject of dispute. We also had some initial reservations about the running time of the script."

The decision to abandon the film could embarrass Disney, which jealously guards its image as the world's most child-friendly corporation. One producer connected to the new film said: "We are very happy with the film and delighted that its success will benefit the hospital.

"Disney are trying to have their cake and eat it. They are trying to pretend that they left the project for all sorts of reasons. The bottom line is that they wanted a share of the merchandising but did not want to pay for it.

"This is despite the fact that they have made tens of millions of pounds out of the animated Peter Pan films, and continue to sell DVDs and videos without benefit to the hospital."

The continued success of the Disney animated versions does not bring any automatic benefits for the hospital, although Disney has made voluntary one-off payments to the hospital over the years.

Disney's attempts to protect its rights to the story have been controversial in the past. Last year it wrote to a Scottish retailer demanding that she change the name of her Peter Pan clothes shop because it infringed the company's copyright.

The retailer was, however, able to keep the name after Great Ormond Street hospital issued a statement confirming that it owned the copyright and was happy to let the shop continue trading in exchange for a one-off payment of £500.

Laura Duguid, 74, the god-daughter of J.M. Barrie, said she was unaware of any dispute between Disney and other producers in relation to the new Peter Pan.

She said: "I just hope that the hospital gets everything it is entitled to from the new film. From what I know about the new film I think it is going to be absolutely wonderful. I have visited the set and seen some of the finished project. The script is absolutely brilliant."

A spokesman for Great Ormond Street Hospital said it had no idea why Disney had pulled out of the project. "We knew they were involved in the film and then heard that they had had a change of heart.

"We have no idea what brought that about. We are very proud of our excellent working relationship with the Disney company."

The film itself has also been embroiled in controversy. Last year P.J. Hogan, the director, was criticised when he revealed that the film would be risque in its treatment of the relationship between the eponymous hero and Wendy, portraying them as two teenagers in love.

Peter Pan was described by casting agents as a "12-year-old Errol Flynn" and Wendy as a "Lolita" figure on the verge of a sexual awakening.

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Posted: Nov. 24, 2003 2:08 am/pm Quote

Very insightful and sad...i tell ya it never used to be 100% about money until the last ten years or so.  Shakes head :punched: OH WELL..i really gotta go and get packed to go to my parents for Thanksgiving!

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Posted: Nov. 27, 2003 9:44 am/pm Quote

In the fine print of the movie ads for this version of "Peter Pan" you'll see Revolution Studios.  I Googled this, and in part came up with who founded Revolution Studios:  Joe Roth, who used to be with Disney up until 2000.  This is a short biography I copied off the AMC cable TV channel WWW site, note second and third paragraphs, begin quoting:

Joe  Roth


Joe Roth formed Revolution Studios in May 2000. Revolution Studios is partnered with three of the premier media companies in the world - Sony Pictures Entertainment, Starz Encore Group and Fox Entertainment Group - as both investors and distributors.

In three years of operation, Revolution Studios has already released 18 films, including America's Sweethearts (2001), which Roth directed, Black Hawk Down (2001), XXX (2002), Anger Management (2003), Daddy Day Care (2003) and Radio (2003). Revolution Studios rounds out its exciting 2003 slate with three highly anticipated films: the powerful suspense thriller The Missing from Academy Award®-winners Ron Howard and Brian Grazer, starring Tommy Lee Jones and Cate Blanchett; the Mike Newell-directed inspirational drama Mona Lisa Smile, starring Julia Roberts, Kirsten Dunst, Julia Stiles, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Marcia Gay Harden; and the live-action fantasy adventure Peter Pan, which is a co-production between Universal Pictures, Columbia Pictures and Revolution Studios.

From August 1994 through January 2000, Roth ran Walt Disney Studios, first as Chairman of the Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group, then from April 1996 as Chairman of The Walt Disney Studios. He led the studio to worldwide market dominance over the five years with an industry-leading 18 films grossing over $100 million domestically, three of which -- The Sixth Sense (1999), Toy Story 2 (1999) and Armageddon (1999)-- grossing more than $200 million in the United States alone. Roth helped build Buena Vista International into the market leader, finishing first in market share five times in six years, the only company to gross over one billion dollars in each of those years. The studio's 1999 Best Picture nominees, The Insider and The Sixth Sense led Disney to an industry-leading 17 Academy Award® nominations.

From 1992 to 1994, Roth, with Roger Birnbaum, headed Caravan Pictures, which produced such hits as While You Were Sleeping (1995), Angels in the Outfield (1994) and The Three Musketeers (1993) for Disney.

Before establishing Caravan Pictures, Roth served as Chairman of Twentieth Century Fox from July 1989 until November 1992. During his tenure at the studio, the company made such successful films as Home Alone (1990), Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (1992), Die Hard 2 (1990), Sleeping With The Enemy (1991), Mrs. Doubtfire (1993), My Cousin Vinny (1992), White Men Can't Jump (1992), Edward Scissorhands (1990), The Commitments (1991) and The Last of the Mohicans (1992).

Prior to Twentieth Century Fox, Roth was a highly successful independent producer/director, co-founding Morgan Creek Pictures, for which he produced such films as Young Guns (1988), Dead Ringers (1988), Major League (1989) and Bachelor Party (1984). Roth directed both Streets of Gold (1986) and Revenge of the Nerds II (1987) for Twentieth Century Fox, and Coupe De Ville (1990) for Universal Pictures.

Equally noted for his diverse civic and charitable activities, Roth has received various awards such as the 1991 Variety Clubs Man of the Year award, the 1996 humanitarian award from the NCCJ, the 1997 American Museum of Moving Image award and was honored in 1998 by APLA and the National Multiple Sclerosis Society. Roth is also an active supporter of the SIDS alliance.

Roth is a graduate school instructor on the faculty at UCLA's independent film and television program and has been coaching AYSO soccer for the past 10 years.

A New York City native, Roth is a 1970 graduate of Boston University.

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You can Google this, too, but I think the above explains it and the "drift".  Interesting.


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