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Posted by: Jeff Spencer on Aug. 12, 2003 8:48 am/pm

If you were King (Eisner) for a day, what one thing would you do to make Fort Wilderness a more enjoyable Disney resort destination?
Posted by: mickeysdad on Aug. 12, 2003 8:59 am/pm

Gotta tell ya, Jeff, I would rehab River Country and make it the themed pool for FW.
:coonskin:

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 13, 2003 5:13 am/pm

Mickeysdad beat me to it -- that's my answer, too!

Okay, since that one's taken, how about this? I'd find a way to cut down on the biting bug population at Fort Wilderness.
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Posted by: Scottwdw on Aug. 13, 2003 8:15 am/pm

I preface this with the fact I haven't stayed at FW since 1998.

I would add more bus runs to get you to and from the parks and DTD.  That was one large complaint my DW has when we stay there and the main reason she is reluctant to go back.  Also, FW buses to get you directly to DTD, MGM, AK (I believe they have this one?) and Epcot.

I know WDW has tried some things but am not sure if they were successful.

I like the River Country rehab for the three area resorts, FW, WL and WLV, too.  Oops, that's two..sorry!  :rolleyes:

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 13, 2003 9:05 am/pm

What about you, Jeff?
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Posted by: Jeff Spencer on Aug. 13, 2003 12:49 am/pm

I'd have to go with improving the transportation situation.  Specifically, I'd set up the buses such that they ran more like the other resorts, i.e., buses that run directly to/from the parks and Downtown Disney.  I'd have them circulate within the resort, pick up guests, who shouldn't wait more than 15 minutes for a bus, and then exit to the parks.  The existing bus system is a step in that direction...if they'd just do away with the bus transfers at the Outpost and Settlement Depots.  

The next item on my list would be to either upgrade the existing pools or, as was already mentioned, reopen & redesignate River Country as the "Wilderness Swimmin' Hole" for use by the Fort, Wilderness Lodge and Wilderness Lodge Villas.  A variation on that would be to reopen RC, make it complimentary to the Wilderness resorts but charge other Disney guests for its use.  Heck, I'd even be willing to pay a little extra to stay at Fort Wilderness if RC entry was included in the price.   :idea:

Posted by: Eddie B on Aug. 14, 2003 10:39 am/pm

No doubt  about what I would do. I would add a top quality pool that would be themed as good as the other resort pools. It would be near River Country and River country would reopen for the guests staying at the Wildreness.  :clapping:
Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 14, 2003 10:45 am/pm

Oooo! I want to amend my answer!

The one thing I would change would be to have a biting-bug-free environment for Fort Wilderness that you could travel around on the refurbished steam train that used to be there, which would have convenient stops near the campgrounds as well as stopping at River Country for the use of Fort Wilderness & Wilderness Lodge Guests for free!

Yeah, they could charge extra for River Country for folks who aren't staying at those two resorts. That would be okay by me.
:D

Posted by: rocklandrvers on Aug. 20, 2003 5:52 am/pm

Fixing the problems with River Country and opening it gets my vote!  When we first began planning for our May 2003 visit, we were excited that RC was so conveniently located at FtW.  Heck we even thought of just hanging out at FtW and not even doing the park hopping thang!  Then came the news that it would remain closed through 2002.  OK we thought they were refurbishing it and it might be open by May 2003 in time for our visit. NOPE! The notices began to read "closed indefinitely".  What a huge waste!

Eisner and the other decision makers have to realize that not all of us like huge water slides that hurdle you 60 mph in a park where you lose your kid (like we did). Sometimes bigger and faster isn't better.  Besides those pools are boring and FtW needs a themed swimming hole!!! :angry:


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Posted by: FWMT on Sep. 04, 2003 9:02 am/pm

I have a few things I'd change or return to FW.

1. Claim River Country for the regular guests at FW.

2. Figure out a way (which will never happen) to revamp, reclaim, and rebuild the FW Railroad. We used to go there just to ride that old train. Got very upset when I found it rusting out behind DC-6. But, now it's gone but at least it's in the hands of those who would want to restore much of it. I fear that most of it's in California though.

3. Hire a Cart Cop. I'm tired of jumping out of the way of kids who's parents rent a golf cart and then hand the keys to their 14 year olds and turn them loose. A little gizmo in the carts that would shut the thing off when a kid was driving it would be great. I'm sure that the folks in Immagineering could  invent one. Kind of like the Knuckle scanner they now use for park ID's.

:hurt:

But, no matter what, it's still the best campground in the USA and I can't wait to get back.

R. Hines

Posted by: RichKoster on Sep. 04, 2003 10:53 am/pm



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We used to go there just to ride that old train. Got very upset when I found it rusting out behind DC-6.
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What's DC-6?
Posted by: FWMT on Sep. 04, 2003 11:26 am/pm

DC-6 is one of the facility buildings on the "back lot". It's near where the ball diamonds are, just east of Bonnet Creek golf. All the FW trains were stored there for years. Four engines, I think twenty passenger cars and one switcher engine. I think there was a stack of track too. I'm sure we weren't supposed to be there but.....

It sure brought back memories when we saw those trains.

:cool:

Posted by: rocklandrvers on Sep. 09, 2003 6:44 am/pm

I asked my son (age 13) what he would change and he gave me what IMHO is the best answer yet.  He said he would move it closer to home so we could go more often. :clapping:

I would go every weekend and every vacation if it was that close!

Posted by: firetigger on Sep. 17, 2003 10:19 am/pm

I just got back from FW last week. I would change the sign out front and let Mickey have his gun back. :TiggerWooHoo:
Posted by: RichKoster on Sep. 17, 2003 11:18 am/pm



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I just got back from FW last week. I would change the sign out front and let Mickey have his gun back. :TiggerWooHoo:
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I agree! Think of it as "Wilderness Homeland Security!"
LOL  :coonskin:

Welcome to the Disney Echo, firetigger! Here's a Fort Wilderness-style pair of Disney EchoEars as my gift to you for joining the fun here and posting your first message on the Disney Echo!

Posted by: Camping Cat on Oct. 09, 2003 11:29 am/pm

As long as we're dreaming, I would upgrade all campsites to include both cable and phone hookups.  I was really spoiled by having cable in a preferred loop last year.  It really came in handy having the Weather Channel with all the torrential rain we had during our trip.  I think people would still pay extra to stay in the preferred loops because of their proximity to the marina and Settlement area.
Posted by: rocklandrvers on Oct. 10, 2003 7:52 am/pm

Thats a great idea Jan :idea:

Maybe put cable in all the loops and put phone hookups in the preferred loops.

Our motorhome TV antenna picked up some of the local channels  but nothing beats having the weather channel for knowing what to expect.

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Posted by: Disney Campers on Oct. 11, 2003 11:01 am/pm



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What's DC-6?
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Distribution Center,  where they store all the merchandise,  food etc.

I'd like to see them bring the "magic" back to the bike barn operations,  those cast members have definetely lost it in my opinion,  the service provided at the bike barn has gone down hill drastically in the last 3 years,  they have new electric carts and its easier to rent a 50000.00 cadilac from national car rental that one of these carts,

Posted by: TGDisney on Oct. 17, 2003 11:22 am/pm

Just getting back from the campground last sunday I would probably say the change in the swimming pool. It was very nice to have it open 24 hours a day though. Being in a campground it would be nice to have some type of theme with slides and maybe a playground type of atmoshere. Even though we did not use the pool everyday the three times we did it would have been nice to have some sort of area for the kids to occupy there time while Mom and Dad set under a palm tree and sip our favorite beverage. That would have been another suggestion is having a food cart at the pool. It is not that far of a walk to the trading post but after walking in the park for days on end even a 400 yard walk seems a long way.
Posted by: disneydaddy on Oct. 17, 2003 3:36 am/pm

I agree that it is less hassle to rent a car at the Airport than a cart at FW, Its also much cheaper. I am glad to see some more control of the rowdies in the carts, not only is it dangerous it is tough on the carts.
I realy liked the ideas tossed around before about connecting FW and Wilderness lodge and creating a type of frontier town.
The possibilities are endless !

Posted by: RichKoster on Oct. 17, 2003 9:20 am/pm

You know that area across the road from where you enter into Fort Wilderness? It had thick woods until a few years ago, then Disney went in and cleared a lot of the trees out.

What they were doing was preparing the site for an addition to the Fort Wilderness resort area, to be called Wilderness Junction. Those plans are currently on hold, but there are plans on the books for adding on to Fort Wilderness/Wilderness Lodge with more wilderness-themed Disney resorts.
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Posted by: disneydaddy on Oct. 18, 2003 7:12 am/pm

More of Fort Wilderness ????  
I cant wait !
Is this a great country or what ?

Posted by: Jeff Spencer on Oct. 21, 2003 7:45 am/pm



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You know that area across the road from where you enter into Fort Wilderness? It had thick woods until a few years ago, then Disney went in and cleared a lot of the trees out.

What they were doing was preparing the site for an addition to the Fort Wilderness resort area, to be called Wilderness Junction. Those plans are currently on hold, but there are plans on the books for adding on to Fort Wilderness/Wilderness Lodge with more wilderness-themed Disney resorts.
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Rich,

I'd heard such a rumor when the trees were cut down; however, when I asked the Cast Members at Fort Wilderness about it, what I was told was that it had nothing to do with Wilderness Junction.  Instead, they said Disney was simply harvesting the trees off the lot.   :no:

Wilderness Junction has been "on the drawing board" for many years but has never gotten any further.  Unfortunately, I don't believe it ever will.  I just don't see the financial incentive for Disney to do it.  They seem more interested in expanding the Disney Vacation Club type properties.

Posted by: RichKoster on Oct. 22, 2003 2:57 am/pm

Thanks for the correction, Jeff!
Posted by: Kimski182 on Oct. 25, 2003 8:55 am/pm

If I could change one thing, it would be phone lines to the campsites, the reason is I really miss my Mickey wake up call when we stay at Ft. Wilderness.  (I've burned it to a CD, and hit play for the rest of the family when I get up now).   Still trying to figure out if I can get them to call my cellphone instead.

Kimski :)

Posted by: rocklandrvers on Oct. 25, 2003 8:04 am/pm

I have to agree how expensive it is to rent a golf cart.  After our May trip, I came up with a great idea. :idea:

BUY MY OWN GOLF CART.  Not only could we use it at FtW, but at the other campgrounds we go to.  Sure beats walking a mile to go poddy.

I began checking online auctions and found several on e-bay. Some of them were pretty expensive.  I found one with a low opening bid and kept outbidding til I won.  I paid $500 for it and put about $100 and some sweat equity into it to fixing it up. Now it runs and looks like new and will be ready for our 10 days staying at FtW in December.   :talktohand:

Posted by: RichKoster on Oct. 25, 2003 8:08 am/pm



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I paid $500 for it and put about $100 and some sweat equity into it to fixing it up.
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I put the prices they charge at Fort Wilderness out of my mind after I saw we couldn't afford to rent one. Have you figured out how many days it would have taken to rent one there to "pay off" your buying one and fixing it up?
Posted by: rocklandrvers on Oct. 26, 2003 7:58 am/pm

At the rate of $45, which is about what it is per day including tax, it would take about 13 1/2 days to be in the red.  Our upcoming December stay is 10 days in itself which makes it close to being worth it for that one trip alone.  :eyebrow:

Had we not had some trailer problems, we would have used it in August when we went to NH for 8 days.  Unfortunately as we were just about ready to head out, we found out that the tilt mechanism had gotten rusty and when we forced it we bent it and it would not line up to lock the bed back in place. :angry: That is all fixed now. :cool:

In some of the campgrounds we visit, the GC is a nice convenience.  We notice that there are a few everywhere we go particularly the bigger campgrounds where the bathhouse is sometimes 1/2 mile or farther away (like one of our favorites in NH that we visited in August).  There are others (our very favorites) which have several bathrooms more conveniently located around the the campground and where the GC is not needed. :laughbig:    

Besides, I really got a huge bargain. The cart (which is nice clean quiet electric) had all new batteries installed about 1 month before I got it. The previous owner didn't know much about electrical systems and thought something major was wrong like the motor since it was not operating properly.  I got hold of a service manual and read up on the system and was able to diagnose the problem to a faulty solenoid which sells for about $15. Instead of changing just the bad one, I went ahead and changed all 5 and checked and cleaned up the other electrical components.  Then we did some body work and repainted it, installed some headlights and some chrome hubcaps. Now it looks and runs better than new.  I am confident, based on ads I have seen, that I could sell it for 3 or 4 times what I paid for it. :evilsmile:

Posted by: disneydaddy on Oct. 26, 2003 9:39 am/pm

What color is the cart ?  I need to know so I can stick my tongue out at you as you roll by.  :bowdown:
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