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+---Topic: Would you like to see Lilo and Stitch at the luau? started by RichKoster
Posted by: RichKoster on April 28, 2003 2:27 am/pm
Would you like to see Lilo and Stitch at the Polynesian Resort's Spirit of Aloha luau?
Do you think adding them would improve the show?
Disney changed the old Polynesian luau into the Spirit of Aloha show and tried to make it more kid-friendly. They previously dropped the first of three nightly luau dinner shows, the family-oriented Mickey's Tropical Luau which featured Disney Characters (including Minnie in a hula skirt) and authentic Polynesian dancers.
The current Spirit of Aloha show features songs from Disney's Lilo & Stitch, but not any of the Characters themselves. Do you think the show would be improved by adding Lilo and Stitch in person?
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Posted by: RichKoster on April 28, 2003 2:38 am/pm
We would have gone to the Spirit of Aloha show on our latest trip to WDW if Stitch was in the show. Stitch is our son's favorite character. I'd also like to see Minnie put back into the show, dressed in her cute grass skirt! So I vote Yes.
Reply with what you think about this! By the way, there are two other threads currently on the Disney Echo which relate to the Spirit of Aloha show here and here.
Posted by: Liv2CdWorld on May 05, 2003 4:50 am/pm
Although I have never seen the show (old or new) I think adding Lilo and Stitch would make it more "Kid" friendly.
I'm just going by everything I've read about the show.....
Posted by: mickeysaver on May 12, 2003 9:25 am/pm
I asked my honey about doing a character breakfast on our December trip and the only comment I got was, "I WANT STITCH!" Well, if that isn't enough to tell you about my thoughts on this. Mickey
Posted by: RichKoster on May 13, 2003 1:51 am/pm
Yoo Hoo, mickeysaver!
Thought you could sneak in here unnoticed by not posting your first message in the "Shake Hands" area, huh?
Well, I found ya!
Welcome to the Disney Echo! I've enjoyed reading your posts on rec.arts.disney.parks, mickeysaver, and I'm glad you joined us here on the Disney Echo. Here's a welcoming gift for you:
You bring up a good question, which I'll ask in the WDW section...
Posted by: mickeysaver on May 13, 2003 12:59 am/pm
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be sneaky. I just really wanted to participate in your poll. I have officially done the hand shake thing now. You have done a great job creating a board with a nice new spin. Mickey
Posted by: Nysie on May 17, 2003 4:39 am/pm
I think that they should add Lilo and Stich for the first show of the night! That is probably when more families are likely to go!
Posted by: kirby428 on May 22, 2003 11:26 am/pm
At the risk of being extremely negative (and in the minority opinion on this poll), some of us do not think Lilo and Stitch are drawn cute. I did not see the movie on purpose. I did not like the animation art so I did not pay to watch it at the movies and I would not enjoy a dinner show with walking representations of the badly drawn un-cute characters as a part. Bring on the real live human hula girls and the flame twirlers! I go to the Luau for an enhansement of the Polynesian cultural theme and not to re-live a movie I refused to see. The character shows geared toward the kids are taking over the dinner show options. Give the Grumpys a break.
Posted by: RichKoster on May 23, 2003 12:11 am/pm
Yoo Hoo, kirby428!
I see your point, but the previous luau at the Polynesian used to have a version for adults and one with the Disney Characters added in the early show to make it more appealing to families with kids. So, the precedent has been set.
How 'bout if just the early show has Lilo & Stitch added?
Posted by: kirby428 on May 23, 2003 6:01 am/pm
I suppose it is unavoidable. Lilo and Stitch is the animated match for the Polynesian Resort. I'm resigned to encounter the characters often during my stay. I should probably see the movie, eh? In my arrogant, way-over-the-hill, grumpy old codger opinion, I still don't think they were drawn cute, but maybe the story line and the music could compensate. There must be something in the animated movie to make the kids go...um..."pineapples"...over Lilo and Stitch. What ever happened to the artist(s) who drew Jessica Rabbit?
Posted by: RichKoster on May 23, 2003 8:16 am/pm
< Here's a review of the Spirit of Aloha dinner show by AroundOsceola.com >
Posted by: Nysie on May 23, 2003 10:35 am/pm
I'm glad we made a res. to see the new show!! The menu sounds wonderful!!
Posted by: BethK on May 24, 2003 12:42 am/pm
Yes - absolutely!
It certainly would appeal to the families and kids would enjoy the show so much more.
My grandkids love Lilo and Stitch!
Posted by: goofy4tink on May 27, 2003 5:29 am/pm
I also would love to see them at an early show. My 9 y/0 dd isn't really excited about doing the Luau but I know if Lilo and Stitch were there it would be different. So, maybe add them to the early show and leave the later show for adults that don't want characters.
Posted by: bbowers on June 29, 2003 11:43 am/pm
As a 40 year old with no kids, it really surprised me that I could SOOO fall in love with a movie like I did with Lilo and Stitch. I've watched it about 15 times so far, and I still tear up everytime Lilo comes back to pick up Scrump after she pitched her. I drive my husband crazy quoting the movie - I think he's really over my interpretation of the "tuna abomination" scene.
That said, I have to tell you I am disappointed in the characters at WDW. I was down in June (supposed to be with husband, illness kept him home, but I was also on business, so went by myself) and had Stitch on the top of my list of things to see (well, right after riding RNRC 5 times). I did spy him on my way out of AK, but I didn't like the expression he had - it wasn't mischevious enough. He needs more coffee.
So, if that's the character they're thinking of putting at the Luau - wouldn't make ME any more likely to see it, but I'm sure the kids would love it. Go for it!
Posted by: Guest on June 30, 2003 8:45 am/pm
I was not in any hurry to see Lilo and Stitch when it was released. I didn't think they looked "cute enough" as I saw earlier in this discussion. Well, after my kids drug me to the movie (Knowing it was Disney I knew it couldn't be awful! ) me and my husband both fell in love with it! The movie makes the characters cute. It is just a sweet story and Stitch has become a favorite around our household. That being said, I think they would make a wonderful addition to the Luau. Maybe if only in the early show. I know I had thought about attending the luau on our next trip, but when I asked my daughters they were really only interested if Stitch would be there. BTW saw the last post and I don't know why Stitch was having such a bad day at AK. When me and my daughter met him and Lilo at MGM he was his usual crazy self! He messed with my daughters hair and clowned around with her. It was actually the highlight of her trip! Of course that could have had more to do with Lilo giving Mommy a "raspberry" because there was no Lilo pin on our lanyards!
Posted by: Mary on Aug. 06, 2003 9:22 am/pm
I would like to see a traditional luau show for the later performance and a more "kid friendly" show with the characters from Lilo and Stitch during the earlier show. I always enjoyed the old Luau!
Posted by: CarolKoster on Aug. 09, 2003 3:09 am/pm
I see kirby 428's points. There are a subset of Disney theme park visitors who, when seeing a dinner show, may not necessarily want to see "cartoon characters" at those shows. Without commenting on whether "Lilo and Stitch" is a good/bad film, some variety of entertainment at WDW can include themed dinner shows without animated characters in them and still be pleasing to anyone of any age or taste.
The film "Lilo and Stitch" is more than a year old. Back in more prosperous "synergistic" times a Lilo and Stitch show perhaps at the Polynesian or replacing the Mickey/Minnie Mouse-themed luau that had been there would've been a hot and great idea. It would have capitalized on the movie yet offered a choice to guests: Luau the way it's always been, or themed in a family-friendly way to this hot animated movie, or skip it altogether. Would've made more sense to do it a year ago. But the title is still popular but not current anymore.
I guess leave the current luau dinner show the way it is and give guests other ways to see these particular characters.
Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 09, 2003 7:51 am/pm
But the title is still popular but not current anymore.
Ah, but the new "Stitch - The Movie" video and DVD is about to come out, and that will be followed by the Stitch TV series. So even though Disney didn't act right away, there's still time!
Posted by: WebTink on Aug. 12, 2003 3:17 am/pm
Not sure how they would meld Lilo & Stitch with the Spirit of Aloha dinner show, except maybe having the characters do a meet & greet in the "lobby" area outside of the venue before seating guests. The characters are a definite fit for the Polynesian, just not the story line of the current SOA. We never did see them on our trip, and wish we could have because that is what my youngest knows of Disney, really. A lot of the characters he is just not familiar with, so didn't want to interact with them.
Posted by: aimsicle on Sep. 10, 2003 9:07 am/pm
way-over-the-hill, grumpy old codger opinion,
kirby428, you can't be too "codger" if you like the animation of Jessica Rabbit!
If I knew nothing about the Luau before going and went to it, and they played songs from Lilo and Stitch without the actual characters being there, I would probably think there was a mistake...like they got sick or something!
A more-adult show and a more child-friendly show with the characters would be just fine with me!
Posted by: kirby428 on Sep. 13, 2003 7:52 am/pm
Just got back from an 8 day stay at the Polynesian. Started off with a night at the Spirit of Aloha. Haven't done so since 1988, but we loved the food, the guests rubbing elbows with each other at the tables, the entire show. One of the best parts was seeing all the children in front with their turn at doing the Polynesian Dances with the cast member serving as coaches. If you are too much concerned about the quality of the food, there is always Ohana, but if you want to get into the "spirit" of the islands, never mind the food; the show more than makes up for it. Nevertheless, I had a great deal served to the two of us...more than we could eat in three suppers and it was all very enjoyable, tasty and fresh. Sure, it wasn't the steak I enjoyed at the California Grille, but it came to the tables fast and in generous portions.
While there, I was thinking about Lilo and Stitch. I still think Stitch would diminish the "spirit" and the theme of the show which now centers on the Polynesian islands and a warm fuzzy thing with the family (Stitch is a monster of sorts and did not seem warm and fuzzy in the movie when I finally saw it). However, there would be opportunity for Lilo and Stitch to make a character appearance at the start of the show or even at the conclusion to say Aloha (applicable for going or coming).
Guest arriving minutes before seating had to stay outside the seating area doing mostly nothing but using fans to stay cool in the afternoon September 29th heat, kids present would have loved to be able to meet characters buddies at times like this. I would have too. There were professional photographers to nab shots to commemorate the guest's "Spirit of Aloha" visit. They could have doubled their revenue if they had provided a Lilo and Stitch option. Sheesh, I would have bought one too.
Posted by: DanMedix on Oct. 20, 2003 2:28 am/pm
When we were there in '94, we went to the Luau, and loved it. When we went back in '01 to the Luau, they'd changed it. Not to be to contrite, but it was TERRIBLE! I mean, it was so bad that my wife and I left in the middle of it. The food was cold, The lady on the microphone was SO phony, and the stage show was nothing like it used to be. It's because of this experience that I probably won't do it again, no matter who's in it.
My father-in-law was with me, and he disliked it so bad, that he kept calling WDW Cust Svc, demanding that he get his money back. Oh well....
Posted by: Cyril Proudbottom on Nov. 14, 2003 4:58 am/pm
2 points, if I may...
1. The thing I like so much about the Disney Resorts is the theming that makes you feel you're somewhere distant and far away from home, while still being a monorail/boat/bus ride away from The Magic Kingdom. I have been fortunate enough to have gone to Hawaii a couple of times - The Luau at the Poly is every bit the equal of most Hawaiian shows. The costumes and dance are genuine and the food is prepared very much the same - right down to Poi! I love the characters in all the parks, but would very much like the shows to stay character free.
I mean, should we have 'Woody' and the whole 'Round-up' make an appearance at the Hoop-dee-doo? I sure hope not. Disney World is a complete destination, It was supposed to be about more than just the Disney cartoon canon. I sure don't mind the change in show, menu, etc. but I think I'd be very disappointed with the addition of characters.
2. Lilo & Stitch is the first Disney animated feature I ever turned off mid way thru (It should be noted I started my video collection years ago and own every single animated movie up to Mulan). I am a huge animation fan, but have been very disappointed in Disney since 'Emperor's New Groove'. Needless to say, I am not a big fan of Lilo & Stitch - the movie. Stitch may be a big draw for the kids. I know he's cute, well drawn, etc., but I don't want him to become the new 'corporate logo' for the Polynesian Resort.
I was always a big fan of the Tiki Room. I have never seen the show since the addition of Zazu and Iago. Not only was I horrified at the changes, but it was the only ride (anywhere in all the parks) that my daughters both cried. We left the attraction early. To me, adding Stitch to the Luau would be as bad a move as that.
Sorry if this sounds mean-spirited and hyper-critical. I don't think the organization makes the best decisions lately and I think adding characters in every single attraction would be a terrible mistake.
I'll get off my soap-box now.
Posted by: RichKoster on Nov. 15, 2003 1:09 am/pm
I mean, should we have 'Woody' and the whole 'Round-up' make an appearance at the Hoop-dee-doo?
Yes, as long as it is a new show at lunchtime and/or breakfast in that location. We need more Character meals that boys would like because there are soooooo many princessy-ones!
Posted by: Bookworm on Nov. 15, 2003 2:52 am/pm
First off, I love Lilo and Stitch (my husband is tired of me mumbling "My friends need to be punished"). But I don't think I'd like them to be added to the Spirit of Aloha either. Call *me a curmudgeon, but the characters at the parks just never live up to the images I have in my head!
While the idea of having a different early and later show for families / adults is appealing, Rich's idea for a breakfast or lunch with the characters sounds best. This way it wouldn't effect the current Luau schedule, and might have the advantage of using an otherwise empty venue to spread out the crowds at MK in the morning and noon crunches?
Even I might go to a character lunch if it had Lilo and Stitch and maybe the chance of learning to hula
Posted by: Cyril Proudbottom on Nov. 15, 2003 9:30 am/pm
Yes, as long as it is a new show at lunchtime and/or breakfast in that location. We need more Character meals that boys would like because there are soooooo many princessy-ones!
Rich, You are absolutely correct about this! In terms of 'boys' character breakfasts, Disney falls far short here!! I can imagine something along the lines of 'Skull Rock' from Werner Weiss' < Yesterland >. Once upon a time, Disneyland offered an eating establishment centered around the Skull Rock theme. What boy wouldn't want to have a character meal with Peter Pan - Maybe become an honorary Lost Boy!
I think the reason I am against the Luau with Stitch is because - to me - the Luau was always more of an 'adult' themed dinner. My Mom and Dad took us there as kids, but I don't think I truly appreciated it until I visited years later with my wife. I want WDW to have it's adult moments every bit as it's childrens moments.
I'm not against character meals. The best time I had at Disney this October was seeing my girls gush at the site of the princesses - (truth be told, I gushed at them too, but that's a post for a more mature discussion board ).
Posted by: RichKoster on Nov. 16, 2003 1:53 am/pm
Yoo Hoo, Jack and Andrea!
I like both of your ideas! Andrea, I was actually talking about Pioneer Hall where the Hoop Dee Doo show is when I was saying they should add a breakfast and/or lunch with the Toy Story Characters there to fit the western theme. But I love your idea of having a lunch with Lilo & Stitch where you can learn the hula at Luau Cove! I don't think they'd add that as a breakfast with the Characters because there already is a Character breakfast it would compete with at 'Ohana. But they could easily add a breakfast and lunch at Pioneer Hall because there is nothing at Fort Wilderness with Characters in the morning or around noon.
And Jack, I'd love to see them add a Skull Rock someplace designed for breakfasts/lunches geared towards boys and their families! Captain and Hook and Peter Pan would be great! Heck, I think the boys would even put up with Wendy being there (and that would give something for the girls/women in the family to enjoy about it, too). And as an added touch, let the Imagineers figure out a way to have Tink appear inside the area in her actual size, too!