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Posted: Oct. 30, 2003 8:52 am/pm Quote

Can anyone who's already seen Brother Bear give us a review as far as the "little ones" are concerned? Are there any scenes that will upset small children? I love all the Disney movies, but since I've had children, I look at them in a new light.  They are extremely violent and tragic.  I haven't let my 4 year old watch Lion King yet because I remember when I saw it in the theater, I cried my eyes out! Anyway, my DD4 can't wait to see Brother Bear, so please let me know if I should be worried about the violence.
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Posted: Oct. 31, 2003 10:29 am/pm Quote

Try the US Council of Catholic Bishops or the movie review site Rotten Tomatoes.  Rich cited earlier the US Council of Catholic Bishops.  Our local newspaper, the New Orleans Times-Picayune, hasn't published a review yet.  But on Rotten Tomatoes you can get a wide variety of reviews from major newspapers and media outlet critics that will cite enough plot points so you'll know as a parent what to expect but not enough plot points to be "spoilers".  I saw a review on  Mouse Planet last night (Thursday 10/30/03) too.  On Rotten Tomatoes enter in the name of the movie into the site's search engine, click when you see it listed, then read around the reviews.  An intact tomato means a positive review.  A green splat means a negative review.  All reviews are thumbnail one-liners of what that particular critic thinks.  For a more full explanation, click on the one-liner quote.  There will be a listing of "other reviews" not usually part of Rotten Tomatoes gang.  Click there, you'll see US Council of Catholic Bishops located.  

I'm a parent too.  For the first time in years this is a G-rated Disney Feature Animation motion picture.  And so there's a bit of an indicator.  Another indicator is that Pixar movies have been G-rated but there are intense "edgy" scenes even though they've been G-rated.  "The Lion King" is G-rated and has the famous "How will my young kids respond to that?" death scene of the wildebeast stampede doing in Mufasa as young Simba watches.  If you and your children can get through any of the above OK, "Brother Bear's" intense scenes can likely be gotten through as well.  However, you know your children/child better than I do.  When in doubt, leave him/her/them home and "tag team" with your spouse or other babysitting adult going to see the movie alone, then make your decision.  Someday "Brother Bear" will be on home video and your children/child can watch it later when he/she/they are a bit more mature.  

Most of the reviews I've already seen say, frankly, the little ones will enjoy but their adult companions might not.  Again, you know your own child/children and their reactions to movies and mass media.  If it's too chancy for you knowing what you do about your own family and the reviews you read, just "tag team" it and see it alone, then the other parent/sitter sees it alone while you stay with the young one(s).  Rich and I do this "tag team" approach all the time with movies we're not sure our son should see.  It's worked out great even though it means multiple trips to the cinema for the parents.  (In the case of seeing "Pirates of the Caribbean" I don't mind multiple trips to the cinema at all!  "Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over" however was excrutiating.  Michael loved it, I couldn't wait to leave.  Your mileages may vary.)

Our son has seen Disney movies all his life.  He's seen "Pirates of the Caribbean" twice.  He'll be age 8 next birthday and he's a Cub Scout and so far an A student in school.  He too is very sensitive about movies, but what's going on is what filmmakers do on their good days and that is to make you care about the characters.  It's when our son cares about the characters that he gets "upset" at the movies, but then don't some adults cry at movies too or cheer out loud and physically for the good guys to win, etc.?  We prepped our son very much before taking him to see "Pirates".  "If you get scared, shut your eyes and it'll be over, the pirates are computer-generated and none of this movie is real, OK?" we told him.  This kid shuts his eyes at WDW all the entire time of going through Haunted Mansion, yet he's seen all the Star Wars movies that have ever been and he's fine.  Well, at the end of "Pirates", just before the credits started to roll, Michael stood up immediately and began to "conduct" the orchestra for the closing credits, exclaiming "That was awesome, and hilarious!"  So sometimes they'll surprise you, either going more extreme to what you think might happen, or going the opposite of what you think might happen...or indeed fulfilling what you think might happen.  Go figure.

There's an excellent Veggie Tales video to watch "Where's God when I'm s--s--s--scared?"  Shows one of the characters watching a Frankenstein-like movie and putting up a brave front, but inside the movie scares him.  The other Veggie Tales characters come to the rescue, give some perspective, then you learn something interesting you never knew before about that Frankenstein-like character in that movie.  It's available for purchase at Christian stores or maybe is rentable someplace.  

I hope this helps.


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Posted: Nov. 01, 2003 6:25 am/pm Quote

I hope I didn't create the impression that we allow our son to see PG or PG-13 movies all the time.  We don't.  We limit and screen out most of the entertainment from the marketplace for him.  These ratings categories are very broad.  We felt he could handle "Pirates of the Caribbean", but other PG-13 movies are much more intense, and there are "mild" and "intense" PG movies.  The key is to look up movie reviews especially movie reviews from your religious faith or parenting organizations that share your values, and you research it to find what is most age and values appropriate for your family throughout their lives of living at home with you.  I hope this clarifies some of what I wrote earlier and, again, helps.  Sometimes it isn't just "violence" you want to screen, but other values and beliefs you may have and want to impart to your family, or not, that are being either celebrated, confused, over-hyped or ridiculed in the movies.

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Posted: Nov. 01, 2003 7:46 am/pm Quote

Someone posting on Mouse Planet's discussion boards who saw "Brother Bear" at the El Capitan theatre which Disney owns in Los Angeles points out there is a change of aspect ratio in BB and to make sure people's local theatres are aware of this technical aspect and shows the film properly.  Aspect ratio means the movie's frame width and height are a certain proportion to each other, generally expressed as x.xx:y.yy.  It's one way up to the transformation sequence in BB, and wider afterward.  FWIW, there 'tis.  And that "Home on the Range" trailers (Disney's next feature length animated film, opening April 2, 2004, see different thread in this section for link online to view the trailer) are showing with BB.

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Posted: Nov. 01, 2003 7:55 am/pm Quote

Thanks for the great info, Carol! I'll check out those websites.
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Posted: Nov. 01, 2003 8:42 am/pm Quote

Here is a movie review from the film critic of the New Orleans Times Picayune about "Brother Bear".  Short version:  Likes some but not all of it.  Heads up to parents wanting to determine if very young children should see this film that the critic points out something about the name of one of the characters I wasn't aware of.  And you'll see somewhere in this link the critic's very short thumbnail of his own review, notice that where he points out it's rated G he puts additional clarification.

http://www.nola.com/movies....870.xml

If this link doesn't work go to www.nola.com, which is the site for the New Orleans Times Picayune.  On the top menu bar select "Entertainment".  Then pursue listings that go to movies.  The critic reviewed two movies in this morning's newspaper for families and both animated, "Brother Bear" and an IMAX movie about Santa, under the same headline "Toon Time".  If you see the headline "Toon Time" on the www.nola.com Entertainment/Movies part of the site, that's the double film review.  The site link may ask you for your zip code and birth year and sex m/f, this may require that you adjust your cookies shield to permit you to go forward to the review, or not.

By their nature some film reviews will summarize the plot and what to expect.  The purpose is to describe and opine enough so you can decide whether to see any given movie or not, but not so much so that "spoilers" are part of it.  But if movie reviews "spoil" it for you generally anyway simply ignore this post or glance over it and get what you need and leave the rest.  :)

Follow-up:  After I posted this Rich got up, read the morning paper, and we discussed the critic's pointing out a meaning of the name of one of the characters as being perhaps inappropriate.  Rich suggested the critic was maybe stretching a bit too far (no double entendre meant! ) in searching for a unique point of criticism.  Rich suggested I look up the word in an online dictionary, which I did.  The word and the character's name sound alike but there is a difference in spelling which supports Rich's contention this critic is going too far in his criticism.  So if this little bit of stirring up the roux (as we say in Louisiana) means something to you, or not, here is a link to the online dictionary about the word or else simply ignore it as you may decide for yourself:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rut

One movie, or reference in a movie, likely isn't going to scar or influence anyone for life, provided the parent is there to provide appropriate screening, explanation and guidance (and discerning discipline) as may be deemed appropriate for age, maturity, family values, etc.


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Posted: Nov. 01, 2003 10:10 am/pm Quote

Quote (CarolKoster @ Nov. 01, 2003 8:42 am/pm)
 The word and the character's name sound alike but there is a difference in spelling which supports Rich's contention this critic is going too far in his criticism.  

The other moose's name is misspelled too -- but definitely has a meaning.

Toque -- is a knitted winter hat. Very popular with us Canadian folk eh? (Though an American friend of ours in Florida is convinced it's another word for sled or toboggan) :o

So I'm afraid the spelling issue isn't going to bolster Rich's argument much. Besides, when do we see how they "spell" their names anyway :wink2:

My opinion (completely uninformed) is that they meant Rutt's name as a gag -- probably not to be caught by anyone but deerhunters or nature show watchers.

Whether intended or not -- the name is there for people to interpret as they want. I personally don't see it as a big deal -- but then again I didn't know what rut meant until I looked it up this morning. I honestly just associated it with the rugged groove in the ground -- which made sense to me. These animals are living in the cold rugged Canadian wilderness where toques and ruts are abundant.

Now a movie that truly offends me with it's characters' names is that horribly politically incorrect film "Lady and the Tramp"

I am starting a petition to have all existing copies and related materials (posters toys etc) recalled and renamed the proper PC title of "Woman and the Travelling Homeless Man". Who's with me?


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As far as BB goes -- I'll be seeing it this weekend.
Roger Ebert's review in the Chicago Sun Times is here:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-brother31f.html

In it he mentions that this is the last 2d Disney film in the foreseeable future -- and that
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the studio is switching to the 3-D style originally popularized by Pixar. Both formats have their strengths; one is not better than the other, simply different.


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Yoo Hoo, Disney EchoEars!

You can see all of the McDonald's Happy Meals online (click here).

Carol points out, "And yes, it is possible to turn the music off!"
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And if you want to discuss these collectibles or other merchandise related to Brother Bear, click here.


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Yoo Hoo, Disney EchoEars!

The directors of "Brother Bear" have just been picked to direct Disney's next animated feature, the title of which hasn't been announced yet.

So, they haven't been laid off!  :eyebrow:

To discuss the topic of their next feature, click here.


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Quote (CarolKoster @ Nov. 01, 2003 7:42 am/pm)
http://www.nola.com/movies....870.xml

Rich suggested I look up the word in an online dictionary, which I did.  The word and the character's name sound alike but there is a difference in spelling which supports Rich's contention this critic is going too far in his criticism.  

Thanks for the link - - for archival purposes I'll also repost the review here on the Disney Echo because there's no telling how long it will stay on the Times-Picayune website.

About the character name Rutt which that reviewer points out means something Disney should have been aware of if they had been watching Animal Planet - - but turns out the reviewer was wrong because the word in question is spelled with only 1 "t" for the reviewer to make his case... if you do spell it with only 1 "t" then another meaning of it is listed as:
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A fixed, usually boring routine.


According to some critics, they might have agreed more with this alternate definition for "rutt"! :eyebrow:

And when you search for "Rutt" there isn't anything listed at all.

But if you go by the first definition listing of "rut" and think the animators were making some kind of a joke when they named one of the moose "Rutt," then that brings to mind all of the past innuendo associated with Timon and Pumba's relationship.
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