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Posted by: Mickey on Feb. 19, 2003 11:49 am/pm

Yoo Hoo, Disney EchoEars!

< JimHillMedia.com > has a very interesting rumor of changes coming to Epcot's Future World, complete with a rendering of Walt Disney Imagineering's plan of that land (scroll down below this text to see it).

Read all about it < here >

Plans include:
  • A bold new look. WDI plans to do this by changing the look from the sterile, beige "Future as designed by Republicans" original concept, tearing out much of the neon and the expanses of concrete that make up the heart of this part of the Park and instead going for a lush, green look with hundreds and hundreds of trees.
  • The entry plaza would be changed to direct you to the right of the geodesic sphere as you enter. Why? Guests would no longer able to walk under the left side of Spaceship Earth because that area will be all enclosed. It will be the pre-show / queue area for the new "Time Racers" attraction inside the giant golf ball. More retail space would be provided to an expanded Gateway Gifts as well. "Time Racers," is projected to be Epcot's latest and greatest thrill ride (opening October 2006), sponsored by Microsoft.
  • "Rainforest Rollercoaster," an inverted coaster to be installed outside the entrance to "The Land" pavilion. It will take Guests on a fast, fun and informative trip through the canopy of a simulated rainforest.
  • "Soarin" would be two giant Omni-max theaters similar to the "Soarin' Over California" attraction at Disney's California Adventure, except Epcot's version would take Discoveryland visitors soarin' over some of the Earth's more intriguing terrain. Think of it as flying over World Showcase.
  • A hedge maze in the southwestern corner of Discoveryland (between "The Land" and the "Imagination" pavilion) where Guests would wander through and stumble upon various educational exhibits as they try to find the exit.
  • "Living Seas" revamped to show the Characters from "The Little Mermaid." Ariel, King Triton and Sebastian would be your hosts in this revamped "Under the Sea" pavilion, showing how we must all learn to live in harmony with the world's oceans ... or risk destroying this precious resource forever.
  • Next to the GM "Test Track," Imagineers want to bring back an old Disneyland favorite: the Jr. Autopia. Guests who are too young and/or too short to ride "Test Track" could enjoy this while Mom, Dad, and big brother / sister are getting tossed around like test dummies.
  • Attention fans of "Cranium Command" and "Body Wars": Imagineers are reportedly thinking about shutting down this entire "Wonders of Life" pavilion (previously sponsored by Metropolitan Life) and using this space for "Future Expansion."
  • Innoventions East and West would lose the roofs and become six separate smaller buildings made from those old Communicore buildings, to allow for more landscaping.
  • The old Innoventions East area would be made up of:
    • "Leading Edge" (exhibits of the latest, greatest scientific breakthroughs)
    • "Robot Restaurant" ("Battle Bots"-like shows while you munch on burgers and fries)
    • "Future Mart" (buy a wide variety of Epcot- and Disney-related merchandise here like when it was "The Centorium" and "Mouse Gear")

  • The old Innoventions West area would be made up of:
    • "Home of the Future" (the new home for most of the AA figures from the soon-to-be-closing "Carousel of Progress" show over at WDW's Magic Kingdom)
    • Internet Café (eat while checking your email)
    • "Cool Stuff" (the latest in cool consumers products.)


Sound good? It sure does to me! But Jim Hill reports that so far the only thing preventing "Project Gemini" from getting an official greenlight is -- of course, what a surprise -- money. Let's hope Jay Rasulo (the new President of Disney Parks and Resorts) convinces Disney CEO Michael Eisner to go forward with "Project Gemini!"

Once again, read the complete details < here >



What do you think about all of this? Hit 'Reply' and share your thoughts!

Posted by: RichKoster on Feb. 19, 2003 11:59 am/pm

Wow!  :wow:

I had heard about some of this, but all of it sounds great! Except for the part about closing Wonders of Life.  
:tear:

Posted by: Mary on Aug. 28, 2003 6:11 am/pm

I just read a rumor that in 2005 Spaceship Earth would be closed and then gutted out!!!  What would replace the inside?  I love that ride and we usually do it numerous times each trip.  Does anyone know anything about this? :help:
Posted by: Figaro on Aug. 28, 2003 6:56 am/pm

I did read about this on WDWMAGIC.com It is said to be part of Project Gemini.  Again, just rumors I thought maybe you would want to review the article yourself.  
Figaro

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 29, 2003 1:19 am/pm

Yes, we've had the news about the proposed project here since February. No construction on Spaceship Earth's rehab has started yet, although construction trailers are next to The Land apparently getting ready to build Soarin'.
Posted by: Goofyteer on Aug. 29, 2003 2:31 am/pm

So it's official? They'll eventually be doing the Spaceship Earth rehab?
Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 29, 2003 2:46 am/pm

Pssst! Here's a clue... when it's official, this thread will be moved out of the "Rumors" area...

Shhhhh... Don't tell anyone that secret clue...
:hush:

Posted by: Goofyteer on Aug. 29, 2003 2:58 am/pm

:hush:
Posted by: dizneluver9 on Aug. 30, 2003 3:55 am/pm

Does Project Gemni include any changes to the Imagination Pavillion...boy does it need some major help :)
Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 30, 2003 6:56 am/pm



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Not that I've heard, but I agree with you that the last rehab of it didn't go far enough and it still needs work, although it is better than version 2 was.
Posted by: dizneluver9 on Aug. 31, 2003 10:31 am/pm

IMHO I think that they need to reopen the upstairs part where we actually got to use our imaginations...from what i have heard most of the "toys" are still up there and that the space itself is used for meetings every once and while :)

I think that it would fit nicely into the "Imagination Institute" theme :D

Posted by: RichKoster on Aug. 31, 2003 11:16 am/pm

Kelly, I agree with you 100%! We finally saw the revamped attraction this year and besides the ride part of it still being having a need to be better, we sure missed the upstairs imaginative play area. We did enjoy seeing those 3D see-through cubes with 3D images of Disney Characters and Guests, though.
Posted by: RichKoster on Sep. 18, 2003 12:13 am/pm

Looks like not all of Epcot Discoveryland, aka Project Gemini, will take place. < Screamscape > has heard a rumor that the idea to rehab Spaceship Earth into Time Racer cannot take place without damaging the structural integrity of the geosphere itself:

Quick quote:
The SSE: Time Racer project may have hit a critical snag. According to this latest rumor, they may not be able to just “gut” the insides of Spaceship Earth as they had previously thought, due to the fact that the many floors and structures that hold the current ride system may be critical to the geosphere’s structural integrety.

The rumor has been confirmed that the Spaceship Earth geosphere structure just simply can not be gutted and replaced with another ride due to the fact that that the current ride system is critical to the geosphere’s structural integrity. While, from a technical standpoint, it is still possible to go on with the project, the costs involved have likely risen to the point where it is no longer worth the effort and building the same ride in a new building from scratch would likely be a cheaper answer.

Posted by: LilMarcieMouse on Sep. 18, 2003 12:50 am/pm

:happydance:  I heard about this and I am over joyed!! Spaceship Eath is my favorite ride at Epcot. But Is it true they are closing CoP?? :sniffle:  i love that one It was Walts baby It was the first attration that he did every thing for it. I wish it had been open when we went. :sniffle:
Posted by: RichKoster on Sep. 18, 2003 1:06 am/pm



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I haven't heard official confirmation yet, but it could be true: For years now Disney has only opened that attraction when there crowds are so thick that they need another place for people to go.
Posted by: LilMarcieMouse on Sep. 18, 2003 1:34 am/pm

Thanks Rich you can bett I'll keep my eye's peeled here for an answer to my question in the coming years. I just hope I get to see at least one more time.
Posted by: Peggo on Sep. 27, 2003 10:34 am/pm

I'm very happy they are not re-doing Spaceship Earth. I like it the way it is. Well, they could jazz up the ending a bit better, but I love the rest of the ride.
If they feel Epcot needs a thrill ride let them put it in one of the country pavillions. There's room there.

Posted by: Rufus on Sep. 27, 2003 12:29 am/pm

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Good news about the Carousel of Progress: between now an the holiday season, it's getting a rehab, including new faces for all the performers. This isn't a trivial thing, and suggests plans are to keep it open for some years to come.

At present, CoP (and The Timekeeper) are in "ride bank" status. They open seasonally, and when attendance is high enough to need more attraction capacity. As such, they are of significant benefit to the current operating plan, so I expect them to stick around.

:beer:

Posted by: JEANYLASER on Sep. 27, 2003 12:44 am/pm

:bowdown: i think that epcot needs to change the whole future world and world showcase. disney need to put in world showcase austraian.
Posted by: JEANYLASER on Sep. 27, 2003 12:51 am/pm

:bowdown: epcot is needs to change anything that is the right way to get up the stocks in disney.
Posted by: Goofyteer on Sep. 27, 2003 2:28 am/pm

I'm relieved that they aren't going to do anything to Spaceship Earth. I think it's a classic and it would have been a huge mistake to remove it. Thank heavens the geosphere structure won't cooperate with tampering! :coolgrin:
Posted by: RichKoster on Sep. 27, 2003 6:02 am/pm



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Good news about the Carousel of Progress: between now an the holiday season, it's getting a rehab, including new faces for all the performers. This isn't a trivial thing, and suggests plans are to keep it open for some years to come.
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Yay!  :clapping:

Glad to hear that! Thanks so much for posting it, Rufus.

You know, if Disney wants more money - - they should make a quick tour out of taking a look at the rehab work that is going on at CoP and how they're renovating it so it can have a great big beautiful tomorrow for many more years to come.
:idea:

Posted by: Goofyteer on Sep. 27, 2003 6:31 am/pm

I agree. Wow, do I ever agree.  :coolgrin:
Posted by: RichKoster on Oct. 12, 2003 1:06 am/pm

On Thursday, Al Weiss (president of Walt Disney World Resort) confirmed that Disney is thinking about changing the name of Epcot's Future World area to "Discoveryland" but "there's nothing green-lighted, there's nothing concrete."

Disney Enterprises did apply for a trademark for the name "Discoveryland," so they could use it for amusement park services. At the same time (this past spring), they also applied to trademark the name "SSE: Time Racer" for unspecified "amusement park services." Why SSE? Those are the initials of Spaceship Earth (if you capitalize the S of "ship") at Epcot.

But Al noted that "we always do a lot of brainstorming on different things."

More to come as I hear more things...
:ears:

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